About this episode

The episode discusses Matthias' trip to South Africa, Lauren's news, and the implications of gatekeeping in their industry.

Where we sit down to talk about Matthias' recent work/play trip to South Africa, Lauren's big news, and if gatekeeping important info could be better for our industry, and the animals we serve. Also, elephant rutting season smell-o-vision, angles of approach, and Mommas-don't-let-your-passion-become-your-profession woes. South African Guide Dog Association The Conversations podcast episode about Tagalaka man Victor Steffensen's journey to becoming a cultural burning expert.

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