EP 42 | Isaac Saul & Jamie Kirchick

EP 42 | Isaac Saul & Jamie Kirchick

May 21, 2026 · 51 min

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Isaac Saul and Jamie Kirchick discuss the DOJ's anti-weaponization fund, political dynamics, and personal grievances.

Today is Not Even Mad. Tangle founder Isaac Saul and journalist Jamie Kirchick discuss the creation of the Department of Justice's $1.776 billion anti-weaponization settlement fund, the legislative fallout from the Trump primary revenge tour, and the unpredictable new swing votes in the Senate. Finally, they honor the trailblazing legacy and posthumous warnings of the late Barney Frank before sharing their personal weekly grievances on everything from shrieking toddlers to Gen Z's lack of eye contact. Produced by Corey Wara Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠ thegist@mikepesca.com For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mikepesca.com/ ⁠ For ad-free content or to become a Pesca Plus subscriber, check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ For Mike's daily takes on Substack, subscribe to The Gist List https://mikepesca.substack.com/ Follow us on Social Media:⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_g ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/pescagist/ X https://x.com/pescami TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@pescagist To advertise on the show…

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Host: Peach Fish Projects

Guests: Isaac Saul, Jamie Kirchick

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