
“We Don’t Talk About That”: How Jesus Heals Secrets and Shame | #81
From Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher by Zach Dasher
May 5, 2026 · 1h 19m
About this episode
A powerful conversation about the cost of secrecy and the freedom of confession with mentors Mac and Mary Owens.
A break from the usual, Zach and Jill sit down with two of their longtime mentors and friends, Mac and Mary Owens (Global Directors of Celebrate Recovery). It’s a raw, powerful conversation about the cost of secrecy, the freedom of confession, and how God can take the darkest parts of a story and turn them into the DNA of a movement that blesses generations. If you’re stuck in the shame cycle, hiding, or convinced you’re too far gone, this episode is a reminder that the gospel runs straight toward the broken, and healing begins when you step into the light.
People in this episode
Hosts: Zach Dasher, Jill
Guests: Mac Owens, Mary Owens
Topics covered
- secrecy
- confession
- shame
- healing
- gospel
- brokenness
Keywords
- secrecy
- shame
- confession
- healing
- gospel
- brokenness
- Celebrate Recovery
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Celebrate Recovery
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