DHH: Basecamp 5, Vibe Coding, and the Future of Rails
From On Rails by Rails Foundation, Robby Russell
June 12, 2026 · 60 min · Season 2 · Episode 5
About this episode
David Heinemeier Hansson discusses the evolution of software development and the impact of AI on coding with Robby Russell.
David Heinemeier Hansson, creator of Ruby on Rails and co-owner of 37signals, joins Robby Russell the same week 37signals shipped Basecamp 5 to talk through the shift reshaping how software actually gets built today: why he reversed his "write every character by hand" stance, why he now considers taking AI seriously a professional obligation, and how cheap experimentation ("git reset and try again") is changing 37signals from the inside: designers and PMs working directly in code, and even t...
People in this episode
Host: Robby Russell
Guest: David Heinemeier Hansson
Topics covered
- software development
- AI in coding
- Basecamp 5
- Ruby on Rails
- designers in code
- experimentation in software
Keywords
- David Heinemeier Hansson
- Basecamp 5
- Ruby on Rails
- AI
- software development
- experimentation
- coding
- 37signals
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Basecamp, 37signals
Products: Basecamp 5
Books & works: Ruby on Rails
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