About this episode

Vincent Ciattei discusses his recent success at the US Track and Field Championships and shares insights on mid-distance training and the dynamics of the Dark Sky training group.

⁠Buy merch: https://outandback.shop/⁠ Vincent Ciattei comes straight off USA Track and Field Championships in New York where he finished second in the 1500 by five hundredths of a second, sent a message to his college group chat saying he was winning the 5K the next day, and then did exactly that. First Dark Sky teammate on the pod, and one of the more interesting training conversations the show has had. Vincent is a 3:48 miler running 90-mile weeks at 7,000 feet, doing double threshold, hill circuits at Marshall Lake, and long tempos down in Camp Verde, and this year it all clicked. They get into what a training cycle actually looks like for a mid-distance guy, how he thinks about threshold intensity control, why the 5K is becoming a legitimate weapon for elite milers, what Dark Sky's massive training group brings out in each other, and the broader conversation around why the best Americans keep skipping USAs in off years and what could be done about it. Goodr: Upgrade your eyewear by heading to goodr.com/OUTANDBACK to claim $10 off your first order. Meteo Pace: Be prepared for race day by getting 20% off https://www.meteopace.com/redeem Code: OUTANDBACK…

People in this episode

Hosts: Jacob Thomson, Rory Linkletter

Guest: Vincent Ciattei

Topics covered

• US 5000m Title
• Training
• Mid-distance running
• Altitude training
• Dark Sky Squad
• Threshold intensity control
• USAs participation

Keywords

• Vincent Ciattei
• 5000m
• training
• miler
• Dark Sky
• threshold intensity
• USA Track and Field
• altitude
• running

Sponsors

Goodr, Meteo Pace

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: USA Track and Field, Dark Sky

Places: New York, Marshall Lake, Camp Verde

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