10: AIDS Isn’t Over | When We All Get to Heaven

10: AIDS Isn’t Over | When We All Get to Heaven

From Outward: Slate's LGBTQ podcast by Slate Podcasts

December 10, 2025 · 50 min · Episode 10

About this episode

The episode discusses the ongoing impact of AIDS and reflects on its history since the late '90s.

In the final episode of When We All Get to Heaven, we catch up on what’s happened in the many years between the emergence of effective treatment for AIDS in the late ‘90s and the fall of 2025, when we recorded this episode. We linger on a moment back in June 1999, when Jim was still pastor and called on the church to remember that AIDS wasn’t over. Because—advances notwithstanding—it still isn’t over. For more on Gilbert Baker and the history of the rainbow flag see the Gilbert Baker Foundation . For more on Prep see San Francisco AIDS Foundation, What is PrEP? “The Path that Ends AIDS: 2023 UNAIDS Global Update” outlines a possible end to the AIDS epidemic. The story of Jacob’s Ladder is in the book of Genesis chapter 28, verses 10-19. The text for “This is the Day that God Has Made” is biblical with music by Leon C. Roberts. “We are Climbing Jacob’s Ladder” is a traditional hymn. “This Little Light of Mine” – text traditional, music by Penelope Gneisen “Song of the Soul” is by Cris Williamson and was sung by her at MCC San Francisco on April 24, 2000. For images and links about this episode visit https://www.heavenpodcast.org/episode-10 . When We All Get to Heaven is produced…

Topics covered

Keywords

More episodes of Outward: Slate's LGBTQ podcast

Explore listener stats, chart rankings, contacts and more on the Outward: Slate's LGBTQ podcast podcast page.