What If Your Endgame Isn't to Get Bigger? with Mike Draper

What If Your Endgame Isn't to Get Bigger? with Mike Draper

June 17, 2026 · 1h 6m

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Mike Draper discusses the challenges of maintaining control over his business, Raygun, for 21 years.

Mike Draper, founder of Raygun, the greatest store in the universe, joins us to talk about what it costs to stay in control of something for 21 years. We get into the real math of brick-and-mortar retail, the night he was $800,000 underwater with a hospitalized wife and a newborn at home, and what it actually means to build a business around "enough." Plus, a bonus conversation at http://patreon.com/pastdue Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hosts: Ana Marie Cox, Open Mike Eagle

Guest: Mike Draper

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