The Great Kegel Debate (Part 3): With Michelle Lyons

The Great Kegel Debate (Part 3): With Michelle Lyons

June 1, 2026 · 1h 12m

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The episode features a deep dive into the Kegel debate with guest Michelle Lyons, discussing the nuances of pelvic floor muscle training.

Should we be anti-Kegel? Has the pendulum swung too far? We brought on the one and only Michelle Lyons to continue the conversation. It deserved a Part 3, and there's no one else we'd rather deep dive into the topic with than Michelle. We cover: Why Kegels and pelvic floor muscle training are NOT the same thing The history of Dr. Kegel (and why we may have misunderstood him) Why pelvic floor rehab is far more sophisticated than "squeeze and lift" &...

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Hosts: Nicole Cozean, Jesse Cozean

Guest: Michelle Lyons

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