120: "Before Trauma Processing" Safety, Stabilization, and Protective Parts in EMDR

120: "Before Trauma Processing" Safety, Stabilization, and Protective Parts in EMDR

March 13, 2026 · 34 min · Season 1 · Episode 120

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Jackie Flynn discusses the importance of safety and stabilization in EMDR therapy with guest Claudia Ocampo, who integrates Internal Family Systems thinking into her practice.

Welcome to EMDR Playground, the podcast for therapists who want to integrate EMDR and play with confidence, clarity, and creativity. Hosted by Jackie Flynn, Registered Play Therapist, EMDRIA Trainer, and author of the EMDR with Kids Flipchart, this show explores how fidelity to the EMDR model, a deep understanding of the nervous system, and the language of play can transform therapy for children, teens, and adults. Each episode offers practical strategies, expert conversations, and insights you can use right away to help your clients heal more deeply. Whether you're EMDR-trained or just beginning to explore this powerful approach, EMDR Playground is your space to grow, connect, and bring more depth and effectiveness to your work. In this episode, Jackie talks with Claudia Ocampo about how she brings Internal Family Systems thinking into her EMDR practice. Claudia shares how a parts lens can help therapists respond with more compassion and clarity when suicidal ideation is present. Rather than seeing suicidality as the whole person, she invites us to consider the part of the client carrying overwhelming pain and desperation. Through a clinical story, Claudia offers a practical…

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Host: Jackie Flynn

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