
What Does it Mean to Be an American?
From Pod Save America by cristian hoyos
May 31, 2026 · 1h 20m · Episode 1167
About this episode
Jon and Ben Rhodes discuss the narrative of American identity through significant political speeches and their implications.
Jon sits down with our own Ben Rhodes to talk about how American leaders tell the story of who we are — and who they think we should be — through the speeches they give. The two go through the seminal speeches Ben selected for his new book "All We Say," discussing their power for good (Frederic Douglass on human rights) and evil (Alexander Stephenson on the "moral truth" of white supremacy), and their own memories of writing presidential addresses for Barack Obama when the stakes were highest.
People in this episode
Host: Jon
Guest: Ben Rhodes
Topics covered
- American identity
- political speeches
- historical context
- leadership
- human rights
- white supremacy
Keywords
- American leaders
- seminal speeches
- political narrative
- Barack Obama
- human rights
- white supremacy
Mentioned in this episode
Books & works: All We Say
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