Bonus Podcast: John Lear (2012 Interview)

Bonus Podcast: John Lear (2012 Interview)

From Podcast UFO by Producer: Donna Killeen

April 27, 2026 · 16 min

About this episode

An archival interview with John Lear discussing his experiences and views on UFOs and related controversies.

From the Archives: (2012) Interview with the late John Lear, (1942-2022) ~ In this archival episode of Podcast UFO, Martin Willis sits down with legendary aviator and controversial UFO figure John Lear for a candid and wide-ranging conversation. John Lear, son of William Lear and a record-holding pilot with extensive experience flying worldwide, shares how his interest in UFOs began with early sightings and grew through decades of aviation and firsthand experiences. Highlights from this interview include: Lear’s early UFO encounters, including a childhood sighting and a mysterious object observed while piloting a Learjet at high altitude His time flying CIA-related missions in Southeast Asia and other regions Inside stories about Bob Lazar, including how they met and Lear’s perspective on Lazar’s claims about Groom Lake and S-4 A detailed account of the famous 1989 desert observation of a disc-shaped craft during a reported test flight Personal reflections on Paul Bennewitz and the controversies surrounding disinformation and the Dulce base narrative Discussion of the so-called “Krill memo” and early attempts to document alleged alien research Lear offers his unfiltered opinions…

People in this episode

Host: Martin Willis

Guest: John Lear

Topics covered

  • UFOs
  • aviation
  • interviews
  • disinformation
  • ufology
  • John Lear

Keywords

  • UFO sightings
  • aviation history
  • CIA missions
  • Bob Lazar
  • Dulce base
  • Krill memo
  • ufology

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: CIA

Books & works: Krill memo

Places: Southeast Asia, Dulce

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