
David Lammy: The old world order isn't coming back
From Political Thinking with Nick Robinson by BBC Radio 4
January 23, 2026 · 51 min
About this episode
David Lammy discusses his views on US politics, his friendship with Vice President Vance, and various political issues in the UK.
What happens when US Vice President Vance goes drinking with Angela Rayner & David Lammy? The Deputy Prime Minister and Justice Secretary knows America better than probably anyone else around the cabinet table. And in this interview he reflects at length on the state of the world and the significance of the US president's Greenland threats. David Lammy gives an impassioned defence against critics who question his friendship with Vice President J D Vance and reflects on his life's journey from Tottenham to Harvard. He also discusses the ongoing row over jury trial reforms, potential upcoming by-elections, and Keir Starmer government's storytelling. Senior Producer: Daniel Kraemer Producer: Flora Murray Sound: Hal Haines and Chris Murphy Editor: Giles Edwards
People in this episode
Host: Nick Robinson
Guest: David Lammy
Topics covered
- US politics
- international relations
- friendship in politics
- jury trial reforms
- by-elections
- government storytelling
Keywords
- David Lammy
- Vance
- Angela Rayner
- Keir Starmer
- US politics
- jury trial reforms
- by-elections
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Harvard, BBC Radio 4
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