About this episode
Miriam Vogel discusses the importance of governing AI to ensure industry profitability and public trust.
Tech companies are spending billions of dollars to build out their AI ambitions — with little clarity about how they’ll recoup their investments. Miriam Vogel, the CEO of the nonprofit EqualAI and former chair of the National AI Advisory Council, says the industry’s profitability depends in part on setting ground rules for the technology. On POLITICO Tech, Vogel joins host Steven Overly to discuss the new book she’s co-authored, entitled “Governing the Machine,” and what steps are needed to build public trust in the AI future. Steven Overly is the host of POLITICO Tech and covers the intersection of politics and technology. Nirmal Mulaikal is the co-host and producer of POLITICO Energy and producer of POLITICO Tech. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
People in this episode
Host: Steven Overly
Guest: Miriam Vogel
Topics covered
- AI governance
- technology investment
- public trust
- profitability
- Miriam Vogel
Keywords
- AI
- governance
- investment
- public trust
- technology
- Miriam Vogel
- Governing the Machine
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: EqualAI, National AI Advisory Council, POLITICO
Books & works: Governing the Machine
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