About this episode

Ron Steslow discusses historic UFO disclosures with journalist Brady Dale, covering government actions and implications of non-human intelligence.

Ron Steslow talks to journalist Brady Dale about the U.S. government's unprecedented UFO/UAP disclosure: from the Pentagon's new PURSUE archive and President Trump's directive to declassify, to David Grusch's whistleblower testimony about crash retrieval programs, the bipartisan congressional fight over eminent domain and "non-human intelligence," the five observables, and how classified programs were stovepiped into private defense contractors beyond congressional oversight. They land on a bigger point — if non-human intelligence is real, the ontological shock may hit the institutions guarding the secret far harder than the rest of us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

People in this episode

Host: Ron Steslow

Guest: Brady Dale

Topics covered

• UFO disclosure
• government transparency
• non-human intelligence
• whistleblower testimony
• congressional oversight

Keywords

• UFO
• UAP
• disclosure
• whistleblower
• government
• non-human intelligence
• Pentagon
• Congress

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Organizations: Pentagon, Congress

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