How Trump, Musk and Doge shattered the US government

How Trump, Musk and Doge shattered the US government

April 2, 2026 · 29 min

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The episode discusses the impact of Elon Musk's initiatives on the US government and the resulting consequences.

In the end, Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, or Doge, sort of just … fizzled out. So did Musk save the taxpayer any money? What happened the people who lost their jobs in the mass bureaucratic culling? What services were affected? Will Americans ever trust their government again? Jonathan Freedland speaks to author Sasha Abramsky about his new book, American Carnage: How Trump, Musk, and DOGE Butchered the US Government , and about what lasting legacy of Doge will be

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Host: Jonathan Freedland

Guest: Sasha Abramsky

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Organizations: The Guardian, Department of Government Efficiency, Doge

Books & works: American Carnage: How Trump, Musk, and DOGE Butchered the US Government

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