How Notion rebuilt for the age of AI

How Notion rebuilt for the age of AI

From Possible by Reid Hoffman

March 4, 2026 · 1h 1m

About this episode

Reid and Aria discuss with Ivan Zhao about the implications of abundant intelligence in the context of AI and its impact on organizations.

In this episode of Possible, Reid and Aria talk with Ivan Zhao, co-founder of Notion, about what happens when intelligence becomes abundant rather than scarce. Zhao shares his philosophy of treating computing as a material — like steel or steam — and why organizations must be built for human scale in an AI-driven world. From Renaissance cities to Xerox PARC, the conversation traces a shift from productivity software to cognitive infrastructure, and arrives at a clear conclusion: in an AI-powered future, human judgment, taste, and values matter most. For more info on the podcast and transcripts of all the episodes, visit https://www.possible.fm/podcast/

People in this episode

Host: Reid Hoffman

Guest: Ivan Zhao

Topics covered

  • AI
  • productivity software
  • cognitive infrastructure
  • human judgment
  • technology

Keywords

  • Notion
  • AI-driven world
  • human scale
  • productivity
  • cognitive infrastructure

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Organizations: Notion, Xerox PARC

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