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Todd chats with Ron Gantt about the future of safety, emphasizing the importance of listening to frontline workers and the role of leadership in incident response.

Todd chats with Ron Gantt about the future of safety — from AI-driven pre-task tools to the limits of rote checklists — and why listening to frontline workers matters more than ever. They explore leadership’s role in shaping responses to incidents, bridging power gaps with contractors, and designing systems that actually support real work. Through examples from healthcare to construction and candid anecdotes, the episode argues for intentional, human-centered change: test tools in context, focus on creating success, and set leaders up to respond thoughtfully when things go wrong.

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