About this episode

Katie Tamblin discusses the challenges of applying lean and agile principles in large organizations.

Episode Summary: In this episode of Productly Speaking , host Karl Abbott talks with Katie Tamblin, consultant, trainer, and author of The Lean Agile Dilemma . Katie explains why lean and agile principles, born in startup environments, often fail in large, mature organizations. From the illusion of agility to the harsh realities of replatforming, Katie shares candid stories and practical lessons learned from decades of experience in product management and data strategy. If you’ve ever wondered why MVPs don’t work when replacing legacy systems, or how internal politics and investor pressure distort product strategy, this conversation is for you. Featured Quote: "Lean and Agile were designed for building software for the first time that no one’s using yet. Chunky corporates are managing decades of existing products and data—that’s a completely different beast." – Katie Tamblin What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Why lean and agile principles break down in large organizations The MVP myth in replatforming (and Katie’s “tent in the garden” analogy) How data migration becomes the biggest gremlin in product transformations The illusion of agility and why sprints don’t…

People in this episode

Host: Karl Abbott

Guest: Katie Tamblin

Topics covered

• Lean principles
• Agile methodology
• Product management
• Large organizations
• MVP challenges
• Data strategy
• Internal politics

Keywords

• lean
• agile
• product management
• MVP
• data migration
• replatforming
• internal politics

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Productly Speaking

Products: The Lean Agile Dilemma

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