The Bad Show

The Bad Show

From Radiolab by WNYC Studios

May 8, 2026 · 1h 7m · Episode 692

About this episode

This episode explores the darker aspects of human nature, including fantasies of violence and the complexities of morality.

With all of the black-and-white moralizing in our world today, we decided to bring back an old show from 2011 about the little bit of bad that's in all of us...and the little bit of really, really bad that's in some of us. Cruelty, violence, badness... in this episode we begin with a chilling statistic: 91% of men, and 84% of women, have fantasized about killing someone. We take a look at one particular fantasy lurking behind these numbers, and wonder what this shadow world might tell us about ourselves and our neighbors. Then, we reconsider what Stanley Milgram's famous experiment really revealed about human nature (it's both better and worse than we thought). Next, we meet a man who scrambles our notions of good and evil: chemist Fritz Haber, who won a Nobel Prize in 1918...around the same time officials in the US were calling him a war criminal. And we end with the story of a man who chased one of the most prolific serial killers in US history, then got a chance to ask him the question that had haunted him for years: why? EPISODE CREDITS: Reported by - Pat Walters and Latif Nasser Produced by - Pat Watlers with help from - Carter Hodge. Signup for our newsletter!! It includes…

People in this episode

Hosts: Pat Walters, Latif Nasser

Topics covered

  • morality
  • human nature
  • violence
  • fantasies
  • good and evil
  • psychology

Keywords

  • badness
  • cruelty
  • killing
  • Nobel Prize
  • war criminal
  • psychological experiments
  • serial killers

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Organizations: WNYC Studios

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