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Ralph Nader discusses the backlash against AI and Big Tech with guests Tyson Slocum and David Wallace-Wells.

In a program devoted to the topic of AI, Ralph welcomes first, Tyson Slocum, director of the energy group at Public Citizen, who tells us about the local backlash against the construction of data centers. Then New York Times climate writer, David Wallace-Wells, explains how the Big Tech CEOs did not count on human beings possibly rising up against them and their machines. Tyson Slocum is director of Public Citizen’s Energy Program , covering the regulation of petroleum, natural gas and power markets. He serves on the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission’s “Energy & Environmental Markets Advisory Committee,” and frequently intervenes before the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) representing the interests of household consumers. The basic question is they (Big Tech companies) are developing essentially governmental powers— governmental powers— not market powers or corporate powers. They’ve reached a level now where they are our government, the corporate government. And we have to escalate our urgencies to that level. It’s more than just the hour is late. The hour is over. So we have to go back and respond with a completely unprecedented level of public interest…

People in this episode

Host: Ralph Nader

Guests: Tyson Slocum, David Wallace-Wells

Topics covered

• AI
• backlash
• Big Tech
• data centers
• public interest
• energy regulation

Keywords

• AI
• backlash
• Big Tech
• data centers
• public interest
• energy regulation
• climate
• consumer rights

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Organizations: Public Citizen, New York Times, U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission, Federal Energy Regulatory Commission

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