Leo XIV on AI / SOS C.S.B.

Leo XIV on AI / SOS C.S.B.

June 13, 2026 · 1h 33m

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Ralph discusses Pope Leo XIV's encyclical on AI with Chris Hedges and the implications of Trump's proposed closure of a safety agency with Rick Engler.

Ralph talks to journalist and M.Div. Chris Hedges about Pope Leo XIV's encyclical on artificial intelligence. Then, Ralph speaks with Rick Engler (former member of the US Chemical Safety and Hazards Investigation Board) about Trump's proposed closing of that agency. Finally, Ralph pays tribute to some recently departed friends. Chris Hedges is a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, who spent nearly two decades as a foreign correspondent in Central America, the Middle East, Africa and the Balkans. He is the host of The Chris Hedges Report , and he is a prolific author — his latest book is A Genocide Foretold: Reporting on Survival and Resistance in Occupied Palestine . I think that Pope Leo kind of missed the point of AI. In that he describes that it could be a positive force for Catholic education (these are his words), compassionate health care, creative platforms that tell the Christian story with truth and beauty. I think those were all indications to me that he didn’t quite understand what AI is about. It’s not about education, it’s not about compassion, it’s not about truth, and it’s not about beauty. It is a very pernicious force that will go beyond, of course, replacing all…

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