Psychologist Says Treat Business Like A Sport And Play To Win w/ Michael Ceely (LST #160)

Psychologist Says Treat Business Like A Sport And Play To Win w/ Michael Ceely (LST #160)

July 6, 2026 · 53 min

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Michael Ceely discusses treating business like a sport to enhance performance and leadership without burnout.

Learn Speak Teach Episode #160 with Michael Ceely. Business is a sport, and if you want to perform at a higher level, you have to train like a business athlete. In this episode, Ben Albert sits down with Michael Ceely, licensed psychotherapist, cognitive behavioral therapist, and executive coach, to talk about pressure, performance, leadership, and what it really takes to thrive without burning yourself out. Michael shares what racing against Lance Armstrong taught him about extra gears, why your morning routine matters more than you think, and how leaders can stop making fight-or-flight decisions in business. He also breaks down the difference between coaching and therapy, the power of authoritative leadership, and how belief systems quietly shape the way we lead, work, and grow. Ben and Michael also dive into Michael’s upcoming book, The Only Way Is Up, inspired by the rock climber who helped save his life, and how that moment became a powerful metaphor for business, courage, and playing to win. If you want to thrive in your career without being stressed out all the time, this episode will help you rethink pressure, performance, and what it means to lead from a stronger place…

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