She's an insider now exposing OpenAI. Here's why you should be concerned | Karen Hao | Real Talk

She's an insider now exposing OpenAI. Here's why you should be concerned | Karen Hao | Real Talk

December 1, 2025 · 1h 2m · Season 1 · Episode 39

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Karen Hao discusses her experiences inside OpenAI and the implications of AI on society and the economy.

If AI is an empire, Karen Hao is saying you can resist it. “We don’t need empires to benefit from AI.” Hao is an investigative journalist and author of Empire of AI , she joined Mohamed Hashem to share what she saw while embedded inside OpenAI. In this conversation, she reveals the inner workings of Silicon Valley, such as how CEOs like Sam Altman shape the story of AI, and what all that means for society, labour and the global economy. Hao explains why AI is not inevitable, how ordinary people can reclaim agency over the technology shaping our future, and why resistance is already forming around the world as we grapple with the questions surrounding this new technology.

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