“Conversion Therapy,” Free Speech, & Rising Aggression

“Conversion Therapy,” Free Speech, & Rising Aggression

From Refuse Fascism by Refuse Fascism

April 26, 2026 · 40 min · Season 7 · Episode 15

About this episode

Sam speaks with Wayne Besen about the fight against conversion therapy and the need to stop fascism in the US.

This week Sam speaks with Wayne Besen, longtime activist with Truth Wins Out , the pioneering LGBTQ rights organization that has led the fight against so-called "conversion therapy." They talk about the recent (terrible) Supreme Court ruling on this cruel and anti-scientific quackery and the movement that is needed to stop fascism in the US now. As MAGA attempts to consolidate fascism across society, Refuse Fascism is gearing up for outpourings in the streets around the country for May 1 (May Day), bringing the message that Trump Must Go Now into the movement so that people feel their power where it really lies (hint: it's not the midterms). Get involved by marching with us on May 1. Text REFUSE to 855-755-1314 or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sign up online⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ , follow @RefuseFascism on social media (@RefuseFashizm on TikTok) and our YouTube channel: @Refuse_Fascism. Support: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe to Refuse Fascism on Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/refusefascism⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠…

People in this episode

Host: Sam

Guest: Wayne Besen

Topics covered

  • conversion therapy
  • LGBTQ rights
  • Supreme Court ruling
  • fascism
  • activism
  • May Day

Keywords

  • conversion therapy
  • LGBTQ rights
  • Supreme Court
  • fascism
  • activism
  • May Day
  • Trump

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Truth Wins Out

Places: US

More episodes of Refuse Fascism

Explore listener stats, chart rankings, contacts and more on the Refuse Fascism podcast page.