Resilient Cyber w/ Joshua Saxe - Why Restricting AI Makes Us Less Secure

Resilient Cyber w/ Joshua Saxe - Why Restricting AI Makes Us Less Secure

July 20, 2026 · 37 min

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Joshua Saxe discusses how restricting AI may actually compromise security and emphasizes the importance of defender adoption in AI cybersecurity.

Does restricting frontier AI in the name of safety actually make us less secure? Joshua Saxe joins me to make the case that it does, and that AI cybersecurity will be won through defender adoption, not restriction. Josh has spent 15 years at the intersection of AI and security. He built and ran the machine learning program at Sophos, then led security for Llama at Meta, covering security post training, evals, agent guardrails, and prompt injection prevention. He recently left to co-found a s...

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