Wes Gray: Optimizing for After-Tax Returns

Wes Gray: Optimizing for After-Tax Returns

From Resolve Riffs Investment Podcast by ReSolve Asset Management

November 14, 2025 · 1h 2m · Episode 236

About this episode

This episode features a discussion on advanced tax-efficient investing strategies with Wes Gray.

On this episode, Adam Butler is joined by Wes Gray for a deep dive into advanced tax-efficient investing strategies. The discussion explores the mechanics of Section 351 contributions for creating tax-deferred ETFs, a powerful tool for investors with already diversified portfolios. They contrast this approach with solutions for managing highly concentrated stock positions, such as exchange funds and market neutral tax loss harvesting, and also touch on the use of box spreads for optimizing collateral. Topics Discussed • Section 351 contributions as a method for converting diversified portfolios into an ETF wrapper tax-free • Utilizing exchange funds as a solution for concentrated stock positions, which involves a seven-year lockup period • Employing market neutral long/short strategies to systematically harvest tax losses and reduce concentrated positions over time • The mechanics of tax loss harvesting, where market beta typically generates losses in the short book, squeezing the tax basis into the long leg • The core concept of the "physics of tax," where tax liability is deferred or shifted rather than eliminated • Using concentrated equity positions as collateral to fund…

People in this episode

Host: Adam Butler

Guest: Wes Gray

Topics covered

  • tax-efficient investing
  • advanced investment strategies
  • tax loss harvesting
  • ETF optimization
  • concentrated stock positions
  • capital efficiency

Keywords

  • after-tax returns
  • tax-deferred ETFs
  • exchange funds
  • market neutral strategies
  • box spreads
  • capital gains tax
  • tax optimization

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: ReSolve Asset Management, SPX, Section 351

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