From Excluded to Empowered: The Subversive Leader Movement with Dr. Chisolm

From Excluded to Empowered: The Subversive Leader Movement with Dr. Chisolm

June 11, 2026 · 49 min

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Dr. Latisha Chisholm discusses her Subversive Leadership framework and its impact on authentic leadership development.

What if leadership didn’t require you to shrink, shift, or sacrifice who you are? In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Latisha Chisholm — researcher, social worker, and founder of Subversive Leader — to explore a bold reimagining of leadership development. Through her groundbreaking work at the University of Pennsylvania, Dr. Chisholm developed Subversive Leadership: a framework rooted in disrupting cultural reproduction and empowering individuals to lead with authenticity, agency, and intention. We unpack how traditional leadership models — despite being part of a multi-billion-dollar industry — often exclude the very people who could most benefit from them. From cost barriers to cultural misalignment, the system has long prioritized conformity over individuality. That’s where Subversive Leader comes in. Dr. Chisholm shares how her AI-powered platform, featuring "Zmara," an AI intelligent leadership coach, is designed to democratize access to leadership development. By centering lived experience, context, and community, the platform offers a radically different approach — one that meets people where they are and helps them grow without losing themselves. This…

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