From Output to Outcome: How AI Forces a Rethink of Teams, Leadership, and Value

From Output to Outcome: How AI Forces a Rethink of Teams, Leadership, and Value

June 11, 2026 · 41 min

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The episode discusses how AI is revealing bottlenecks in organizational workflows and the implications for teams and leadership.

Dave West sits down with Mik Kersten, author of Project to Product and the upcoming Output to Outcome, to explore why AI amplification is exposing the real bottlenecks in how organizations work. Mik shares data from over 3,600 value streams showing that development teams account for just 8% of end-to-end delivery time which means making those teams faster with AI doesn't move the needle if the constraints are upstream and downstream. The conversation digs into why most organizations are measu...

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Host: Dave West

Guest: Mik Kersten

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Books & works: Project to Product, Output to Outcome

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