Germany Rewrites the Rules for its Spies | Florian Flade

Germany Rewrites the Rules for its Spies | Florian Flade

July 11, 2026 · 57 min · Season 1 · Episode 54

About this episode

Chris speaks with German investigative journalist Florian Flade about a draft law that would allow Germany's BND to conduct offensive operations.

For most of its history, Germany's foreign intelligence service was built to watch, not to act — a constraint rooted in the country's experience of the Gestapo and the Stasi. A sweeping draft law would change that, letting the BND conduct sabotage, covert interference, and offensive cyber operations for the first time. Chris speaks with German investigative journalist Florian Flade, among the first to report on the draft, about what's driving the overhaul.

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