From The Archives: Tommy Orange On Native Identity, Untold Histories And There There
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Dua Lipa interviews Tommy Orange about his novel 'There There' and the themes of identity and history it explores.
From the Service95 Book Club archives, this episode from March 2025 sees Dua sit down with Tommy Orange to discuss There There – his powerful novel that follows 12 Native Americans whose lives converge at the Big Oakland Powwow. Dua and Tommy trace the histories often omitted from America’s national story and talk about what fiction can do that history books alone cannot. Tommy reflects on the real-life events that inspired the novel, including the 1969 to 1971 occupation of Alcatraz and the Standing Rock protests, and how those moments found their way into his characters. He describes personal experiences woven into the book through the character of Thomas Frank, and explains why he left the novels ending unresolved, handing the reader the job of imagining what comes next. It’s a story of identity, belonging, inherited trauma and resilience – and a conversation you’ll think about long after hearing it. Join the club: 📩 Email us your…
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