Estelle

Estelle

From Shawn Stockman's On That Note by Shawn Stockman

May 13, 2026 · 1h 9m

About this episode

Estelle discusses her career, the making of 'American Boy', and her experiences in the music industry with Shawn Stockman.

Estelle sits down with Shawn Stockman for a powerful conversation on “American Boy,” meeting Kanye West, manifesting John Legend, and carrying West London soul onto a global stage. In this episode of On That Note, Estelle opens up about the creative instincts, industry lessons, and personal belief system that shaped her career. She reflects on selling thousands of CDs herself, building her own label, navigating labels that didn’t understand her, the story behind “American Boy,” her connection with John Legend, and the deeper legacy of representing Black UK music around the world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

People in this episode

Host: Shawn Stockman

Guest: Estelle

Topics covered

  • music industry
  • creative process
  • Black UK music
  • personal belief system
  • label navigation

Keywords

  • Estelle
  • American Boy
  • Kanye West
  • John Legend
  • music career
  • Black UK music
  • label challenges

Mentioned in this episode

Books & works: American Boy

Places: West London

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