What Barbecue Sauce Has in Common With Carbon Removal

What Barbecue Sauce Has in Common With Carbon Removal

July 24, 2026 · 1h 4m · Season 3 · Episode 59

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This episode features a discussion with Peter Reinhardt about Charm Industrial's innovative approach to carbon removal and its recent developments.

Charm Industrial is a climate tech company that takes biomass and converts it into a heavy, carbon-rich oil that can be injected underground, transmuting and storing the greenhouse gas far from the atmosphere. They’re scaling up fast and recently announced a new $20 million debt facility with JP Morgan; the bank also agreed to buy more than 60,000 tons worth of removals from them. On this episode of Shift Key, Rob is joined by Peter Reinhardt , the CEO and cofounder of Charm. (He’s also the CEO of the trucking company Revoy, a founder of the autoimmune therapeutics company Antipode, and a board member at the electricity data company Arcadia.) They talk about what makes Charm different, how it is scaling operations as a carbon removal company, and the changing politics of climate change. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap News. You can find a full transcript of the episode here . Mentioned: Charm’s new deal with JP Morgan The ProPublica story Peter criticized “ Over-Regulation is Doubling the Cost ,” by Peter The Cantwell-Sheehy bipartisan carbon removal bill Previously on Heatmap: Charm Is Working With the U.S. Forest Service on a…

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Host: Robinson Meyer

Guest: Peter Reinhardt

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Organizations: Charm Industrial, JP Morgan, Revoy, Antipode, Arcadia

Books & works: Over-Regulation is Doubling the Cost

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