A Poet's Guide to Product Management with Peter Bogart-Johnson

About this episode

Peter Bogart-Johnson discusses the art of product management and the importance of listening and trust in team dynamics.

Peter Bogart-Johnson was one of Jane Street’s first program managers, and helped bring the art of PMing—where that “P” variously stands for “project,” “product,” or some blend of the two—to the company at large. He’s also a poet and the editor of a literary magazine. In this episode, Peter and Ron discuss the challenge of gaining trust as an outsider: how do you teach teams a new way of doing things while preserving what’s already working? The key, Peter says, is you listen; a good PM is an anthropologist. They also discuss how paying down technical debt isn’t something you do instead of serving customers; what Jane Street looks for in PM candidates; and how to help teams coordinate in times of great change.

People in this episode

Host: Ron

Guest: Peter Bogart-Johnson

Topics covered

• product management
• trust building
• technical debt
• team coordination
• anthropology in PM

Keywords

• product management
• trust
• technical debt
• Jane Street
• team coordination
• PM candidates
• anthropologist

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Jane Street

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