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Kaiser Kuo interviews Pallavi Aiyar about India-China relations and the importance of cognitive empathy in understanding each other's perspectives.

This week on Sinica, I sit down with the writer Pallavi Aiyar — at her own dining table in Beijing, where in recent months I’ve been the lucky beneficiary of her and her husband Julio’s legendary hospitality. Pallavi first arrived in Beijing in 2002 to teach at the Beijing Broadcasting Institute and went on to spend the better part of a decade as The Hindu ’s China correspondent — for much of that time, the only Chinese-speaking Indian foreign correspondent in the country. That period produced Smoke and Mirrors: An Experience of Chin a , still one of the very few sustained attempts to look at China through Indian eyes. After 16 years away — years spent in Brussels, Jakarta, Tokyo, and Madrid — she’s back in Beijing, and turning her gaze inward with her latest book, Travels in the Other Place: Pursuing the Self in Eight Acts . She writes the wonderful Substack The Global Jigsaw , which I recommend without reservation. Our conversation is built around her recent essay for Noema Magazine, “ The Real Problem Underlying India-China Tensions ,” which argues that the deepest problem in the relationship isn’t the border or the trade imbalance but the distorting lenses through which each…

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