
A discussion on separating Jesus from organized religion and exploring a more experiential faith.
Stuart sits down with Chris Jones of Spiritual Hot Sauce to talk about what happens when you separate Jesus from the religion built around him. Chris pushes past surface-level belief into something more experiential — challenging the idea that worship alone is enough and arguing instead for a lived-out discipleship rooted in action. They get into deconstruction, the role of fear in faith, how bias shapes the way we read scripture, and why so many people walk away from religion but still find themselves drawn back to the teachings of Jesus. It’s a conversation about what survives when belief systems fall apart — and what it actually means to follow Christ without the machinery of church.
Host: Stuart Delony
Guest: Chris Jones
Organizations: Spiritual Hot Sauce
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