
Matthew J. Distefano discusses LGBTQ inclusion in the church and the implications for defining Christianity.
Author and theologian Matthew J. Distefano joins me fresh off his marathon debate with Andrew Wilson on LGBTQ inclusion in the church. We talk about what it’s like stepping into the online debate machine, the difference between conversation and domination, and why arguments about queer inclusion so quickly become arguments about who gets to define Christianity in the first place. Matt reflects on the limits of debate, the role of compassion, the pull of certainty, and what happens when defending a religious system becomes more important than the people harmed by it. We also get into power, scapegoating, gatekeeping, and the uncomfortable question beneath the whole spectacle: if this is what Christianity looks like, why wouldn’t people leave?
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