I Got Sober. I Still Avoid the Phone

I Got Sober. I Still Avoid the Phone

July 7, 2026 · 30 min · Episode 282

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Matt and Steve discuss the everyday tasks that can feel overwhelming in recovery and the anxiety associated with avoidance.

Send us Fan Mail Sobriety can take away the drinking, but it does not automatically fix the part of us that avoids uncomfortable things. In this episode, Matt and Steve talk about the everyday tasks that can become weirdly heavy in recovery: making the phone call, going back to the dentist, dealing with money, choosing a contractor, or finally handling the thing we’ve been putting off. This conversation is about the anxiety that builds when we avoid, and the relief that often comes from takin...

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