#049 Pay Yourself First: Ann Wilson on Financial Freedom, Assets, and Women's Power

#049 Pay Yourself First: Ann Wilson on Financial Freedom, Assets, and Women's Power

April 30, 2026 · 56 min

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Ann Wilson discusses financial freedom and empowerment for women, emphasizing the importance of investing and building wealth.

The civil engineer who built financial freedom and teaches others to do the same. Ann Wilson, known as The Wealth Chef, built financial freedom in eight years starting from debt - and has now been financially free for over 20 years. This episode is for women who feel overwhelmed by investing, who have handed their financial decisions to a partner or advisor, or who sense there is a gap between earning money and actually building wealth. Petro du Pisani and Ann dig into exactly what that gap is and how to close it. Ann explains the fundamental difference between earning income and building wealth through assets - shares, real estate and diversified index trackers - and why women have historically been excluded from the asset-owning side of money. She unpacks the 'pay yourself first' principle, the myth that investing must be complicated, and why broad market index trackers beat most financial advisor products. She also challenges the cultural conditioning that pushes women to outsource financial decisions and warns that without financial empowerment, women will be overpowered in relationships, careers and life. Topics covered include: calculating your 'enough number', the debt…

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