About this episode

Tami Simon discusses lasting spiritual partnerships with married Buddhist teachers nico and devon hase.

What does a lasting spiritual partnership actually look like—behind closed doors? Tami Simon speaks with nico and devon hase—married Buddhist teachers and co-authors of the new Sounds True book This Messy, Gorgeous Love: A Buddhist Guide to Lasting Partnership —about why real intimacy requires the willingness to be a little volcanic, a lot forgiving, and always, beautifully finding your balance rather than holding it. This conversation offers genuine transmission—not just concepts about awakening, but the palpable presence of realized teachers exploring the growing edge of spiritual understanding together. Originally aired on Sounds True One . This episode is sponsored by Omega Institute, a global gathering hub for lifelong learning and spiritual exploration. Located in upstate New York’s beautiful Hudson Valley, Omega offers weekend workshops, special events, rest and rejuvenation retreats, professional trainings, online learning, and more. Discover what calls to you at eomega.org/true . See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

People in this episode

Host: Tami Simon

Guests: nico hase, devon hase

Topics covered

• spiritual partnership
• Buddhism
• intimacy
• forgiveness
• spiritual understanding

Keywords

• spiritual partnership
• Buddhism
• intimacy
• forgiveness
• awakening
• spiritual understanding
• love

Sponsors

Omega Institute

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Sounds True

Books & works: This Messy, Gorgeous Love: A Buddhist Guide to Lasting Partnership

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