The Token-Maxxing Bill That Shocks Every CFO — & the Fix

The Token-Maxxing Bill That Shocks Every CFO — & the Fix

From Sourcery by Sourcery with Molly O'Shea

June 1, 2026 · 55 min

About this episode

Merge co-founders discuss AI infrastructure, security, and the implications of token-maxxing bills.

Merge co-founders Shensi Ding (CEO) and Gil Feig (CTO) join Sourcery for a wide-ranging conversation on building AI infrastructure that quietly powers some of the biggest companies in tech — including OpenAI, Perplexity, Netflix, Uber, Mistral, and Dropbox. They break down Merge's three-product suite (Unified, Agent Handler, and Gateway), the make-or-break month that pushed them to rebuild around AI, and why they now believe "English is your programming language." Gil gets candid on the state of AI security — supply chain attacks, agentic code flooding GitHub, and why the scariest threat is always internal. Shensi shares hard-won hiring philosophy (missionaries vs. mercenaries), her admiration for Benioff and the "beginner's mind," and a hot take on companies over-engineering their own models. Plus: the SaaSpocalypse, the brutal reality of token-maxxing bills, governing employee AI access, headless Salesforce, and whether today's AI valuations make any sense at all. Shensi Ding: https://x.com/shensi Gil Feig: https://x.com/GilFeig Molly O’Shea: https://x.com/MollySOShea Sourcery: ⁠ https://x.com/sourceryy 𝐄𝐏𝐈𝐒𝐎𝐃𝐄 𝐋𝐈𝐍𝐊𝐒 YouTube…

People in this episode

Host: Molly O’Shea

Guests: Shensi Ding, Gil Feig

Topics covered

  • AI infrastructure
  • token-maxxing
  • AI security
  • hiring philosophy
  • employee AI access
  • SaaSpocalypse

Keywords

  • AI
  • infrastructure
  • security
  • token-maxxing
  • hiring
  • SaaSpocalypse
  • employee access

Sponsors

Brex, Turing

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: OpenAI, Perplexity, Netflix, Uber, Mistral, Dropbox

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