
The Recurrence Effect with Perry Maughmer
From Spirit of EQ by Eric Pennington and Jeff East
May 6, 2026 · 1h 2m · Season 7 · Episode 174
About this episode
Eric and Jeff discuss personal and leadership growth with returning guest Perry Maughmer.
In this episode, Eric and Jeff hang out with Perry Maughmer—a returning guest and one of their all-time favorite people—for an honest, practical (and sometimes funny) discussion about what it really means to grow as a person and a leader. What’s Inside This Episode? Perry’s New Book: Why He Wrote It for Himself - Perry tells us all about his newest book, The Recurrence Effect . But get this—he wrote it for himself first, doesn't care if it sells, and purposely didn’t jam it with easy answers. His goal? Help you realize you have what you need already inside, even if that means sitting with the messy stuff and more ambiguity than you’re used to. Why Copying Someone Else's Life Hacks Never Works - Ever get sucked into those “guaranteed” success frameworks online? Perry has zero time for that. He explains that just because a system or trick worked for one person doesn’t mean it’ll fit you. It’s like wearing someone else’s custom suit—a weird fit at best! Leadership: It's a Doing Thing, Not a Title - There’s a super cool take here—Perry doesn’t think “leader” should be a title. It should be about what you do , not who you are . The best leaders care about people, not KPIs. Results…
People in this episode
Hosts: Eric Pennington, Jeff East
Guest: Perry Maughmer
Topics covered
- personal growth
- leadership
- self-development
- authenticity
- people development
Keywords
- leadership
- personal growth
- self-help
- authenticity
- development
Mentioned in this episode
Books & works: The Recurrence Effect
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