
Toni Collier and Chris Cook discuss the obsession with healing versus the pursuit of holiness and the true nature of transformation.
Can healing become an idol? After Toni’s reel about becoming more obsessed with healing than holiness reached millions of people, she invited Chris Cook into a deeper conversation about what real transformation requires. Together, they unpack the difference between self-awareness and surrender, healthy boundaries and hardened walls, processing pain and building an identity around it. Healing matters—but healing was never meant to end with us thinking about ourselves more. It should help us love better, live freer and become more like Jesus. This episode is honest, challenging and deeply hopeful for anyone who has learned all the healing language but still feels spiritually stuck.
Host: Toni Collier
Guest: Chris Cook
Books & works: How Healing Became an Idol
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