
Pastor Paul discusses the difference between knowing something and being formed by it, emphasizing that real change occurs in relationships rather than classrooms.
Most of us think growth happens when we learn more. Read more. Take a class, get the notes, check the box. But what if that's exactly why so many people feel like they're going nowhere? In this talk, Pastor Paul unpacks one of the most misunderstood ideas in all of human development — the difference between knowing something and being formed by it. Using the story of Jesus calling his first followers, he makes the case that real change doesn't happen in a classroom — it happens in relationship, in the mess of real life, alongside people you're willing to be honest with.
Host: Pastor Paul
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