About this episode

John Regalado and non-voter Carlheb discuss the complexities of voting and political engagement following their debate with Wes Moore.

John Regalado sits down with non-voter Carlheb to unpack their recent Surrounded debate with Wes Moore. In this follow-up, they discuss the moral tension that comes with participating in an imperfect and often corrupt system, the legacy of slavery in the current political consciousness, the influence of black revolutionaries like Fred Hampton, and whether or not Wes Moore convince Carlheb to cast his vote in future elections. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

People in this episode

Host: John Regalado

Guest: Carlheb

Topics covered

• voting
• political participation
• moral dilemmas
• legacy of slavery
• black revolutionaries
• elections

Keywords

• non-voter
• political system
• moral tension
• elections
• black history
• Fred Hampton
• Wes Moore

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