
About this episode
The episode discusses scandals in Trump's cabinet, focusing on Kash Patel and the implications for law and gerrymandering.
As scandals shake Trump’s cabinet, Harry sits down with Emily Bazelon, Conor Lamb, and Charlie Sykes to discuss the revelations about Kash Patel, a Democratic redistricting win in Virginia, and the administration’s latest retaliations. Along the way, the trio discuss what it will take to revive the rule of law and whether there’s a path away from endless gerrymandering. They close by digging into the jaw-dropping details from Emily’s reporting about how Trump turned DHS into an agency incompetent at real law enforcement but adept at inflicting suffering. Mentioned in this episode: Harry’s Substack on the SPLC indictment: https://harrylitman.substack.com/p/funding-extremism-pleaseEmily’s reporting: https://www.nytimes.com/by/emily-bazelon#latest Charlie’s Substack: https://charliesykes.substack.com/ Emily's DHS article: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/04/14/magazine/trump-dhs-ice-officers-immigration-deportations.html Emily’s conversation with Harry about her oral history of the DOJ under Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PDKeMe1mXU Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
People in this episode
Host: Harry Litman
Guests: Emily Bazelon, Conor Lamb, Charlie Sykes
Topics covered
- Trump administration
- gerrymandering
- rule of law
- Kash Patel
- Virginia redistricting
- DHS incompetence
Keywords
- Trump
- Kash Patel
- gerrymandering
- DHS
- rule of law
- Virginia
- scandals
- Emily Bazelon
- Charlie Sykes
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: SPLC, New York Times, DHS
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