289 – Annie Jacobsen & Be Afraid… Be Very Afraid

289 – Annie Jacobsen & Be Afraid… Be Very Afraid

August 4, 2026 · 1h 15m

About this episode

Annie Jacobsen discusses her book on biological warfare and the frightening implications of engineered pathogens.

This may be my scariest episode ever!   We’ve covered non-fiction before, but rarely is the truth more frightening than the stories we tell. This week it just might be… cos Annie Jacobsen is here with Biological War: A Scenario.   It unveils a narrative of speculative reality, in which an engineered pathogen escapes a lab, and runs rampant through our civilisation. Cities fall, millions die, the lights go out.   I dared myself to read it. I dare you to listen to Annie tell us about her research, and the stuff she found that scares the hell out of her.   Enjoy (sort of!)   Other books mentioned: Nuclear War: A Scenario (2024), by Annie Jacobsen “A Modest Proposal” (1729), by Jonathan Swift World War Z (2006), by Max Brooks The Deluge (2023), by Stephen Markley A Brief History of the Earth: Four Billion Years in Eight Chapters (2021), by Andrew H. Knoll   Support Talking Scared on Patreon   Check out the Talking Scared Merch line – at VoidMerch   Come talk books on Threads, Bluesky, and Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Host: Neil McRobert

Guest: Annie Jacobsen

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Books & works: Biological War: A Scenario, Nuclear War: A Scenario, A Modest Proposal, World War Z, The Deluge, A Brief History of the Earth: Four Billion Years in Eight Chapters

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