Why Building AI Matters More Than Using It with Ali Asaria of Transformer Lab

Why Building AI Matters More Than Using It with Ali Asaria of Transformer Lab

March 19, 2026 · 47 min · Episode 310

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Ali Asaria discusses the importance of building AI infrastructure and the realities of modern AI development.

In this episode of Tank Talks, Matt Cohen sits down with Ali Asaria, Co-Founder of Transformer Lab, to unpack the less visible side of the AI boom, from broken machine learning tools to the rise of autonomous research agents. Ali shares what it really looks like inside modern AI development and why the biggest opportunity isn’t just using models, but having the ability to train, control, and improve them. Ali also reflects on his journey building across multiple tech waves, from creating BrickBreaker on BlackBerry to scaling Well.ca and Tulip, and now tackling AI infrastructure with Transformer Lab. He breaks down the realities most founders don’t talk about, why great products lose deals, how long enterprise sales actually take, and why success often comes down to trust, timing, and people more than technology. Beyond AI, the conversation takes a broader turn into the future of innovation. Ali challenges the tech industry, especially in Canada, to think bigger, rebuild public trust, and focus on solving real-world problems through ambitious “mega projects.” If you’re trying to separate AI hype from reality and understand where the real leverage is being created, this episode…

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Host: Matt Cohen

Guest: Ali Asaria

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Organizations: Transformer Lab, BlackBerry, Well.ca, Tulip

Places: Canada

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