PODCAST: Forget Normal, I want M.A.G.I.C

PODCAST: Forget Normal, I want M.A.G.I.C

From Tap'd Talks HR by Tap'd Solutions

April 20, 2026 · 37 min

About this episode

In this episode, Anthony and Claire Brumby discuss the evolution of leadership beyond traditional norms and the importance of self-leadership and emotional intelligence.

In this episode of Tap’d Talks HR, Anthony speaks with Claire Brumby, speaker, author, leadership trainer and coach, about modern leadership and why the old “normal” no longer fits the world of work. Drawing on her entrepreneurial journey and her new book, Forget Normal, I Want M.A.G.I.C, Claire shares why leadership today must move beyond hierarchy, command-and-control and outdated ideas of who gets access to leadership development. Together, we explore the role of self-leadership as the foundation of modern leadership, the importance of emotional intelligence and intuition, and why organisations need to invest more deeply in the human side of work if they want resilient cultures and sustainable performance. Claire also introduces her M.A.G.I.C framework - Mindset, Awakening, Gumption, Intuition and Charisma - and explains how these five elements can help leaders adapt, build trust and lead more effectively in a fast-changing world. This is a thoughtful, energetic conversation for leaders, managers and HR professionals who want to rethink leadership for the future, and start with themselves.

People in this episode

Host: Anthony

Guest: Claire Brumby

Topics covered

  • modern leadership
  • self-leadership
  • emotional intelligence
  • M.A.G.I.C framework
  • resilient cultures
  • sustainable performance

Keywords

  • leadership
  • M.A.G.I.C
  • emotional intelligence
  • self-leadership
  • resilience
  • trust
  • organizational culture

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