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Stuart and Natty discuss declining PFAS levels in Great Lakes fish with Dr. Sarah Balgooyen.

In this episode, Stuart and Natty talk with Dr. Sarah Balgooyen of PFAS@Mines at the Colorado School of Mines about her team's surprisingly good news: PFAS levels in Great Lakes fish have been declining since the mid-2000s. They get into how you actually find that out — freeze-drying and blending 50-year-old lake trout pulled out of an EPA freezer — and how Teflon went from a failed refrigerant experiment to a key material in the Manhattan Project. PLUS: a New Yorker cartoon pitch! Warren Dunes State Park, Michigan Bob's Atomic Burgers , Golden, CO Sarah's paper — Journal of Great Lakes Research PFAS@Mines research group EPA Great Lakes Fish Monitoring and Surveillance Program iiseagrant.org

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