The Science of Learning Meets AI with Lew Ludwig + Todd Zakrajsek

The Science of Learning Meets AI with Lew Ludwig + Todd Zakrajsek

April 23, 2026 · 36 min · Episode 619

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Lew Ludwig and Todd Zakrajsek discuss the intersection of learning science and AI in education.

Lew Ludwig + Todd Zakrajsek uncover themes from The Science of Learning Meets AI on episode 619 of the Teaching in Higher Ed podcast. Quotes from the episode We could actually create an educational system. Not so that it deals with the problems we have with AI, but so that those problems are no longer relevant. -Todd Zakrajsek If you don’t have students attention, they can’t learn because if you don’t attend to something, you can’t learn it. -Todd Zakrajsek Keep in mind that you’re the expert. This is your assignment. You know what you’re doing, you know the content, so then you can judge what AI gives you, what works, and what still may need some work. -Lew Ludwig What this gets down to is backward design; we start with the learning goals. We should figure out how to assess them, and then decide if AI fits in that or not. -Lew Ludwig Resources The Science of Learning Meets AI: A Practical Faculty Guide to Purposeful Integration, Student Engagement, and Ethical Practice, by Lewis D. Ludwig & Todd D. Zakrajsek Lilly Conferences: Evidence-Based Teaching & Learning Mary-Ann Winkelmes Transparency in Learning & Teaching (TILT) Higher…

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Host: Bonni Stachowiak

Guests: Lew Ludwig, Todd Zakrajsek

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Organizations: Lilly Conferences, Mary-Ann Winkelmes

Products: Caraway Cookware

Books & works: The Science of Learning Meets AI, The Science of Learning Meets AI: A Practical Faculty Guide to Purposeful Integration, Student Engagement, and Ethical Practice, Transparency in Learning & Teaching (TILT), The Opposite of Cheating: Teaching for Integrity in the Age of AI, Joy Comes Back, The Other Side of the Door

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